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It comes back, again and again, like a bad penny. (Does that bad penny idiom exist in English languages? Is it still in use? Random aside, sorry.) So, as I have new shows:

Comment with one of my fandoms, and I'll reply with:

01. The first character I first fell in love with
02. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now
03. The character everyone else loves that I don't
04. The character I love that everyone else hates
05. The character I used to love but don't any longer
06. The character I would shag anytime
07. The character I'd want to be like
08. The character I'd slap
09. A pairing that I love
10. A pairing that I despise

Please, hit me.

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Date: 2010-05-29 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wee-warrior.livejournal.com
Right! Let's see...

01. The first character I first fell in love with

That's really difficult, since I started watching the show at least three times... If I recall correctly, the first time around, my first beloved character was Locke - benign feelings at least partly earned by Terry O'Quinn's previous character, Director Kendall of Alias.

02. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now

Well, "love" is still a stretch, but given that I truly hated him before, "like" definitely should count in this case. Yes, I'm afraid it is Jack. If anyone had predicted that last year I would have pointed and laughed.

03. The character everyone else loves that I don't

Sawyer. Again, I don't dislike him, and I understand why people adore him. He's just not my cup of tea most of the time. (I also don't find Josh Holloway enticing in any way, I think that plays a huge part.)

04. The character I love that everyone else hates

From reactions to Across The Sea, I'm tempted to say Allison Janney's character, but if we keep it to recurs and regulars, I'm going to say Smokey (although he has fans), Juliet (although she gained fans), Charlotte (who got a lot of very unfair flak) and Ilana.

05. The character I used to love but don't any longer

I'm gonna split this up, like the show: I still love PrimeDes, but except for two small gestures - taking Eloise's hand and hugging Jack - I really disliked AltDes.

06. The character I would shag anytime

Juliet, Charlotte, Amy, The Original Man In Black (er, in context of the show, not Johnny Cash), TeenWidmore (hey, don't judge!), probably Miles, Ilana, Shannon and if we ignore his death to lovers curse, Sayid.

07. The character I'd want to be like

On this show? Seriously? I wish I were as nice as Jin's Dad, but I guess that's not in the cards.

08. The character I'd slap

Anthony Cooper. Christian. Sawyer's father. Kate's father. Ben. Jack. Locke. Smokey. Every. Single. Other. (except Alex). And Jacob. Dear gods, my hands would hurt from slapping Jacob.

09. A pairing that I love

I'm gonna give this spot to Sun and Jin, you know. Just because.
For MightHaveBeens, Juliet and Sayid, Kate and Sayid, Miles and Charlotte, Frank and Sun, Miles and Richard, Ben and Locke, Kate and Cassidy, Kate and Claire, and of course Locke/Island all have a very special place in my heart.

10. A pairing that I despise

I don't despise pairings on this show. I might have come to despise some shipper subgroups more than others*, but I'd really say that's water under the bridge. ;)


*by no means limited to one pairing, either

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Date: 2010-05-29 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] astrogirl2.livejournal.com
Yes, I'm afraid it is Jack. If anyone had predicted that last year I would have pointed and laughed.

Jack seems to have done that to a lot of people. :)

Dear gods, my hands would hurt from slapping Jacob.

LOL! I so understand the impulse. :)

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Date: 2010-05-29 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petunia846.livejournal.com
I've never heard that idiom in English before.

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Date: 2010-05-29 12:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wee-warrior.livejournal.com
Hm, judging from [livejournal.com profile] snopes_faith's answer below, it seems to have been used in the UK. Intriguing. There is something similar in German, with fake 50 Pfennig coins(the small currency we had before Euro Cent).

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Date: 2010-05-29 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] astrogirl2.livejournal.com
It's quite familiar to me here in the US, but it's not exactly one I hear people use every day in conversation.

(Sorry. Replied in the wrong place the first time.)

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Date: 2010-05-29 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wee-warrior.livejournal.com
Ah, more research data. Very good! Would you say that it is old-fashioned or just not used that much?

(No problem. Happens to me all the time.)

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Date: 2010-05-29 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] astrogirl2.livejournal.com
Probably a bit old-fashioned. Actually, I think I have heard my grandmother use it in conversation, now that I think about it. :)

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Date: 2010-05-29 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wee-warrior.livejournal.com
:D

Well, as I said to [livejournal.com profile] snopes_faith above, as a 2nd Language Learner, some of your vocabulary might be a bit outdated, but that's more than I expected...

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Date: 2010-05-29 07:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snopes-faith.livejournal.com
The Vampire Diaries!

(The bad penny idiom would be understood and is still in use here in the UK but I think it would be seen as a bit old fashioned.)

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Date: 2010-05-29 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wee-warrior.livejournal.com
(Old fashioned usage: it is one of the drawbacks of Second Language learning if you don't have constant exposure to "living" usage (I made that term up, but it describes adequately what I mean). I suspect most of my grammar and a lot of my vocabulary is a bit out of date.)

Meme!

01. The first character I first fell in love with

I could lie and say that it was Caroline or Bonnie, whom I both adore, but no, it was probably Alaric.

02. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now

Again, "love" is a bit of stretch, this time because I didn't dislike before, I was merely indifferent: Damon managed to finally grow on me, like a hilarious, sociopathic fungus. Gaining layers really helped with that. (As did no longer tormenting Caroline.)

03. The character everyone else loves that I don't

I'd be surprised to hear that people actually like Matt - as opposed to simply not remember him even when he is around - but yeah, I don't get the appeal.

04. The character I love that everyone else hates

I wouldn't say I "love" Isobel, much like I wouldn't say that I love trainwrecks, but she does fascinate me in a way.

05. The character I used to love but don't any longer

The show is 22 hours old, I haven't found anyone to grow out of love with yet.

06. The character I would shag anytime

Alaric, if there were the remote chance that he wouldn't talk about either Isobel or Damon. Jenna, if there were the remote chance that she wouldn't tell me about all her catastrophic relationships. Katherine, if I ever get a death wish.

07. The character I'd want to be like

Between sociopathic vampires, melodramatic teenagers, crazy slayers, mortally challenged witches, jerkish werewolves, incompetent grown ups and numerous cannon fodder, who might I possibly choose to emulate? I would say Pearl, if that didn't mean 145 years as a mummy. I guess I'll have to take the Vampire Detecting Compass...

08. The character I'd slap

Wow, Damon, Katherine, those are pretty red handprints on your beautiful little faces. Now, put those knives away.
(Honourable mention: all of the Lockwoods, Kelly Donovan, and both Johnathan Gilberts, as well as Papa Salvatore.)

09. A pairing that I love

I actually do like most of the canon couples, without being extremely over the moon with any of them. I also enjoy Alaric and Damon in a nonsexual way, although I absolutely see why anyone would slash them.

10. A pairing that I despise

The one time I came pretty close to hating Damon forever was his abusive relationship with Caroline, so I'm going with that one.

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Date: 2010-06-01 10:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snopes-faith.livejournal.com
I'd be surprised to hear that people actually like Matt - as opposed to simply not remember him even when he is around

I actually did have to think "Which one of them's Matt?" so certainly in this cross sample of one, your observations holds up.

7's a tough one, isn't it? I agree Pearl's probably about the strongest role model there. If you can overlook stuff like the eye gouging.

I think Damon's a hard character to forgive for me too precisely because of the way he treated Caroline. I find him funny and he's a good source of chaos in shaking things up for the other characters but I'll never be emotionally on his side. It's like when he was all hurt when Elena lied to him about Stefan not telling him the truth, it didn't work for me because I thought "Yeah, you don't really get to ride the moral high horse, ever".

Thanks for answering. Most interesting :)
Edited Date: 2010-06-01 10:30 am (UTC)

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Date: 2010-06-01 10:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wee-warrior.livejournal.com
Glad you liked! These memes are always a good way to ponder on shows.

I actually did have to think "Which one of them's Matt?" so certainly in this cross sample of one, your observations holds up.

Oops. *g*

7's a tough one, isn't it?

I think 7 is impossible for almost any show. TV characters usually don't work like RL people, that's one general obstacle; in case of this show, most of the characters are either explicitly messed up or jerks, so you wouldn't want to be them for different reasons.

I think Damon's a hard character to forgive for me too precisely because of the way he treated Caroline. I find him funny and he's a good source of chaos in shaking things up for the other characters but I'll never be emotionally on his side.

I know what you mean. We have talked about the moral element before; I find it difficult to apply that to non-human characters like I would with human ones, but that doesn't mean I look at them without morality. I do view them as somewhat shifted to the side of human characters, if that makes any sense. In addition, the show itself has somewhat shifty morals that can't easily be divided into "vampires=evil, humans=good" - Pearl is a really good example, since I would see her as someone who is basically good, but at the same time rather autocratic and not at all above using force and violence when it suits her. I think Damon is somewhat difficult to grasp here, because they've changed the character concept, for one (from killing people out of boredom or spite in the beginning to mostly killing them when he feels threatened later on - still ruthless and bad, but no longer as psycho) and also because he strikes me as rather emotionally disturbed. In that respect I like certain developments in the end of the season for him (don't know how far you watched, thus, vagueness), because it means they are developing him - as opposed to Sylar for instance.

As for forgiving him, no, and they'll have to work hard on that. But I don't find myself shaking my head at Stefan or Elena or Alaric because they get along with him, both because of who they are and because of said development.

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