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weewarrior) wrote2010-03-24 12:31 pm
weewarrior) wrote2010-03-24 12:31 pm
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Very brief thought on Lost 6.09: Ab Aeterno
Ernsthaft, wenn ich mit einem scheinheiligen Arschloch, das gerne Moralstücke mit unglückseligen Fremden inszeniert, auf ewig auf einer Insel festsitzen würde, dann wäre ich auch mordlustig.
( Seriously, if I were trapped on an island for all eternity with a sanctimonious prick who likes to stage morality plays with hapless strangers, I'd be kind of homicidal, too.)
( Seriously, if I were trapped on an island for all eternity with a sanctimonious prick who likes to stage morality plays with hapless strangers, I'd be kind of homicidal, too.)
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We don't, admittedly, but if you look at the first conversation between him and Jacob, he clearly has no positive opinion of humanity:
S: You're trying to prove me wrong, aren't ya?
J: You are wrong.
S: Am I? They come, fight, they destroy, they corrupt. It always ends the same.
J: It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.
S: Do you have any idea how badly I wanna kill you?
The interesting thing about this conversation, of course, is that they do come across as equals, and as equally detached from people - Smokey thinks they're inherently bad, Jacob uses them to prove a point. Or, to give an alternative interpretation, if he is looking for a candidate to replace him, he, too, is probably tired of being trapped on the island. The question is then, is all that he does only an incredibly long and involved con to get someone to kill Smokey? Or rather, if Smokey is really evil incarnate, why not just kill him, instead of keeping him imprisoned?
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Oh, absolutely. But knowing what we know now, well... Smokey is just sitting there and bitching about how people suck. Which is not exactly an uncommon pastime. It's Jacob who's actually, y'know, messing with people's lives. Of the two, based on just that moment, there's one I know I'm not happy to have out and about messing around with humanity in general, and one I can only speculate about.
Which, again, isn't to say that I actually think Smokey is a poor misunderstood woobie or anything. I'm with you on the whole "sinking the island plus Smokey and whatever is left of Jacob" thing. I'm just reserving judgment on the question of which one is actually the lesser evil here, and to what extent their opinions and statements about each other can be trusted.
The question is then, is all that he does only an incredibly long and involved con to get someone to kill Smokey?
You have a twisty and devious mind. Which means you might be right. :) Although Jacob hasn't given any indication of being anything but surprised and unhappy about being dead, so that would hardly seem to be part of his plan, if there is one.
Or rather, if Smokey is really evil incarnate, why not just kill him, instead of keeping him imprisoned?
A damned good question. Part of the "rules" they've talked about, perhaps? Which just raises the question of where the heck those rules come from in the first place.
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Something that intrigued me about the ep is that Hurley is better at talking to dead people than Miles is. Miles gets their dying thoughts, but Hurley has whole convos.
Also, is the evil being contained the man in black? Maybe it's something else altogether and they are both guardians in their way.
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I'm positive they actually changed that. When we get Miles first mini flashback, he is talking to the ghost and asking him where he hid his money. The ghost seems to answer, too, because he finds it.
Also, is the evil being contained the man in black? Maybe it's something else altogether and they are both guardians in their way.
I don't think the Man in Black is a guardian - he told Sawyer (and I think Kate and Sayid?) that there was nothing to protect the island from and that Jacob was talking nonsense.
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